Ranar Screenprinting Press Tips: Initial Set Up With Off Contact And Screen Angle

This is another educational screen printing video about Ranar presses. If you have purchased a Ranar press from Catspit Productions or Ranar Manufacturing in El Segundo California, you may want to check out this video for tips on how to set up your press. In this tutorial video I cover leveling the base of the press along with leveling the pallet arms. Then we take a look at how to properly set the pallet to the pallet arm. After some initial set up adjustments are made you can then look at the printing set up with off contact and screen angle. In the video I show you how to set these adjustments on the Elite Series II screen printing press. It will be very similar for the Vista Series II presses as well. I also show you how to loosen the micro registration in the event that it is a bit tight from the factory. This is an awesome video to watch prior to setting up and working with your new or used Ranar press. Enjoy and thanks for watching!

Don’t forget I offer FREE SHIPPING on screen printing equipment anywhere in the continental US and all crating or boxing fees are included in the pricing! PLUS no sales tax except in California. Enjoy the video and thanks for watching!

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Screen Printing Supplies and Equipment Sales: Setting new standards in old fashioned customer service. Catspit. Ranar. Seriously simple. TM

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Screenprinting Tee Shirts: How To Use Screen Opener For Clogs On Press

This is another tutorial video I made so you can easily access this information. I covered this topic in the past and we even did a recent video on aerosols which included screen openers. But this is a much shorter video just showing you how to use screen openers on press to remove clogs in the stencil. Here we simply re-examine the 2 most common ways to apply screen opener. Of course there really is no wrong way to use it as long as it’s working properly and not doing any damage to anything. There is one method that is actually on the directions of most screen openers and there is another method that is more controlled. In this video I show you both and I discuss some of the details in using screen openers on press. This is a very simple video but I hope it will help some of you find this information quickly and learn from it. I hope it has some educational value for you all. Enjoy and thanks for watching!

Don’t forget I offer FREE SHIPPING on screen printing equipment anywhere in the continental US and all crating or boxing fees are included in the pricing! PLUS no sales tax except in California. Enjoy the video and thanks for watching!

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Screen Printing Supplies and Equipment Sales: Setting new standards in old fashioned customer service. Catspit. Ranar. Seriously simple. TM

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Screenprinting: Making Screens While Vlogging And Being Stupid

Here’s a video I think is fun. Maybe you will too or maybe not. In this strange vlog you can follow along as I try to make a screen to print the freebie Bella Canvas shirts with. You’ll get to hear me sing, watch me walk like an ape and vandalize my own shop. Okay I didn’t vandalize my shop but I did break something by accident and I left it in the video. I was planning another screen printing video but I didn’t like the way it came out. I’m afraid you’ll have to put up with this video instead. You’ll learn about some of the music I like to listen to and you’ll get some behind the scenes tidbits that I rarely include. You’ll see parts of the shop that I do not shoot often. You probably won’t learn anything from this video but you may like it. So if you have some time to waste or maybe you want to learn more about me and what I do every day at the storefront, then take a moment and watch this entertaining vlog style video. Enjoy and thanks for watching!

Don’t forget I offer FREE SHIPPING on screen printing equipment anywhere in the continental US and all crating or boxing fees are included in the pricing! PLUS no sales tax except in California. Enjoy the video and thanks for watching!

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Phoenix storefront now open!
480-899-9089

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Screen Printing Supplies and Equipment Sales: Setting new standards in old fashioned customer service. Catspit. Ranar. Seriously simple. TM

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Screenprinting Tee Shirts: Squeegee Summary Synopsis Rundown

Here’s another educational screen printing video about squeegees. This information has been covered in the past in previous videos. However I wanted to simplify some things and add a few personal notes on the different types of squeegees. Have you ever wondered what the colors mean? This is a great summary rundown of squeegee durometer, size and metal versus aluminum. It’s a great tutorial video to get you familiar with screen printing squeegee. Many people do not pay much attention to details like the specifics of squeegees but in the end it can help make printing tee shirts or other substrates easier and more consistent. It will take some time for you to get familiar with choosing your squeegee for each particular screen printing job but eventually it will become second nature. You’ll end up having many squeegees of different sizes, durometers and even handles. It’s nice to be able to choose from wood or metal handled squeegees with different printing applications.

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Don’t forget I offer FREE SHIPPING on screen printing equipment anywhere in the continental US and all crating or boxing fees are included in the pricing! PLUS no sales tax except in California. Enjoy the video and thanks for watching!

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480-899-9089

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Screen Printing Supplies and Equipment Sales: Setting new standards in old fashioned customer service. Catspit. Ranar. Seriously simple. TM

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Screenprinting Tee Shirts: Aerosol Spray Adhesives And Screen Openers

Here’s another educational screen printing video about the most common aerosol products used in screenprinting tee shirts. In this tutorial video I give you a run down on flash tack, web tack, screen opener, citrus screen opener and even a water based ink screen opener. You’ll get to see how the adhesives spray and you’ll get a quick look at how each is used. Usually screen openers can be used in one of two ways. In this video I demonstrate both with an explanation of citrus versus regular screen opener. Ever wonder what adhesive to use with fleece? This video answers that question and many more. You’ll learn all about the aerosol products we use in the textile screen print shop every day. If you’re just starting out in screenprinting then you want to be sure to watch this informational product video. Take a few short minutes and watch this tutorial screen printing video that will teach you about screen printing T-Shirts. Enjoy and thanks for watching!

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Don’t forget I offer FREE SHIPPING on screen printing equipment anywhere in the continental US and all crating or boxing fees are included in the pricing! PLUS no sales tax except in California. Enjoy the video and thanks for watching!

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See what screen printing supplies we have ready in Phoenix for pick up:
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Phoenix storefront now open!
480-899-9089

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Screen Printing Supplies and Equipment Sales: Setting new standards in old fashioned customer service. Catspit. Ranar. Seriously simple. TM

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Screenprinting Tee Shirts: What is “Sawtoothing” And How To Prevent It

Here’s another educational screen printing video about poor print resolution caused by emulsion’s inability to bridge the grid pattern of the screen mesh. This is often called “sawtoothing.” Most of the time we see this on 110 mesh counts and lower. Usually this is not much of a problem since we put less detailed artwork on lower mesh counts. But it can be a problem if you experience this when trying to achieve fine lines, curves, circles and any type of smooth, high resolution artwork. This video explains exactly what sawtoothing is and how you can prevent it. I included some of my own home made graphics to help you visualize this as well as a few up close images of a 110 mesh screen with an emulsion stencil. Take a few short minutes and watch this tutorial screen printing video that will teach you about screen printing T-Shirts. Enjoy and thanks for watching!

Don’t forget I offer FREE SHIPPING on screen printing equipment anywhere in the continental US and all crating or boxing fees are included in the pricing! PLUS no sales tax except in California. Enjoy the video and thanks for watching!

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See what screen printing supplies we have ready in Phoenix for pick up:
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Catspit Productions, LLC
Phoenix storefront now open!
480-899-9089

Learn how to screen print tee shirts with Catspit Productions, LLC!

Screen Printing Supplies and Equipment Sales: Setting new standards in old fashioned customer service. Catspit. Ranar. Seriously simple. TM

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Screen Printing Equipment Made In The USA!

Would you like to see an affordable, reliable and durable screen printing press made right here in El Segundo California? I have some awesome deals on screenprinting equipment that include a lifetime guaranty on all of my presses. I also feature free shipping in the continental US. With no credit card processing fees, free shipping, and our awesome warranties you get great savings with great equipment. No sales tax except in California State.

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Screenprinting equipment and supplies, classes, training, shop rentals:

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480-899-9089

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How To Create Screen Printing Artwork With Vector Clip Art, Shapes & Fonts

I apologize for the minor audio glitches in this one. I simply could not figure out what caused those and I was unable to re-shoot. It may have been the way I had to do this one. I’ll work on this for the future.

Here’s another educational screen printing video about creating artwork for printing tee shirts. In this video I give you a pretty thorough rundown on the practice of using vector clip art for creating tee shirt artwork. So if you do not know how to create vector art from scratch, then you’ll want to learn about vector clip art which anyone can use to create some very cool screenprinting tee shirt graphics. This is a summary video and I left a lot of things out just to show you the concept of working with clip art. But check out my tips and video links below for some info that may fill in some gaps for you.

1 – If you’re doing a 1 color piece of art and you want to print straight from Illustrator or Corel Draw, make 100% CMYK black objects with everything you create. See this video for more on that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onEAPXahCp4

2 – If you want to do a color composite on one layer in order to let RIP software do the separations, then make sure all the colors are true spot colors and/or spot color gradients.

3 – If you want to create a multi-color piece of art in a similar way that I was showing in this video, remember you will need to “knock-out” the artwork in such a way that only what you want prints. In this case we would have had to “knock-out” the circle in the rectangular shapes on the 3rd layer in order for them to print with a knocked out space for the circle. Follow? Don’t worry, I’ll do a follow up video and show a simple way of doing that.

4 – You can manipulate the clip art as much as you want as well. With a 1 color set up, try to change the objects to all 100% CMYK blacks. But be aware that doing so on complex pieces of clip art can be challenging. Strange things can happen due to hidden objects or the way the art was created.

Take a few short minutes and watch this tutorial screen printing video that will teach you about screen printing T-Shirts. Enjoy and thanks for watching!

Don’t forget I offer FREE SHIPPING on screen printing equipment anywhere in the continental US and all crating or boxing fees are included in the pricing! PLUS no sales tax except in California. Enjoy the video and thanks for watching!

http://catspitscreenprintsupply.com/screen-printing-equipment/

See what screen printing supplies we have ready in Phoenix for pick up:
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Catspit Productions, LLC
Phoenix storefront now open!
480-899-9089

Learn how to screen print tee shirts with Catspit Productions, LLC!

Screen Printing Supplies and Equipment Sales: Setting new standards in old fashioned customer service. Catspit. Ranar. Seriously simple. TM

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Ranar Screen Printing Equipment: Rotary Presses, Infrared Dryers, Exposure Units & More…

Check out this awesome Ranar equipped shop with 2 Elite 6/6 presses, 1 Elite 8/8, a 4 color, 1 station bench press, washout booth, 16 foot forced air belt dryer, flash cure units and more. This is one of the biggest shops I helped equip with all of my Ranar screenprinting equipment. You can see this shop is pretty big and there is an automatic tag machine as well as an automatic textile press in there! It looks like a very nice set up and they are finishing the final arrangement as we speak. Eventually there will be tables and shelves for all of the ink and shirt handling.

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Ranar Shop

Lifetime guarantee only from Catspit – We guarantee all Ranar screenprinting presses to last a lifetime. Catspit Productions guarantees all parts, with the exception of MDF pallets, for a lifetime for the original owner if you buy through Catspit Productions. We do not guarantee or warrantee Ranar presses bought through Ranar or other dealers.

No sales tax on many out of State orders – No sales tax on all equipment purchases out of or in Arizona State. We only charge sales tax for California on equipment and supplies. Sales tax is charged for supplies in Arizona but not on equipment. We’re still small enough to not have to pay taxes on out of state internet sales. Those tax savings are your savings. Sometimes doing business with a smaller company has its sales tax benefits.

Free shipping on all major equipment purchases – FREE SHIPPING on equipment purchases! We offer free shipping anywhere in the continental United States on all equipment purchase over $100. That’s right! Our major discount incentive saves you hundreds if not thousands on shipping your equipment to you. We’re the only Ranar dealer in the US to offer free shipping all year round. You don’t have to wait for a sale to save on freight.

NO credit card processing fees! While other dealers and sellers of screen printing equipment charge you a fee for using a credit card, Catspit Productions does not. Use your credit card freely without being hit with a big surcharge in processing fees. Save hundreds if not thousands!

Screenprinting equipment and supplies, classes, training, shop rentals:

Catspit Productions, LLC
Phoenix, Arizona
480-899-9089

http://CatspitScreenPrintSupply.com/

Setting new standards in old fashioned customer service. Catspit. Ranar. Seriously simple. TM

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AccuRIP Troubles? Need A Permanent Solution?

If you’re looking for screen printing RIP software you can buy once and own forever, then look no more. If you can use a PC with Windows then you can buy FilmMaker 4 and use it for a lifetime as is. No need to upgrade or be forced to upgrade unless you want to. Actually, usually if software is doing what you need to be done, then there is no real reason to upgrade. Perhaps if there were a ground breaking feature added or maybe one that you need at the very least. But if it’s an upgrade for the sake of upgrades, then maybe it’s time for software that is tried and true. Buy it once and own it for life.

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FilmMaker-4Screenprinting equipment and supplies, classes, training, shop rentals:

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